{"id":21481,"date":"2014-02-11T16:50:37","date_gmt":"2014-02-11T16:50:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/william-menzies-lecture-on-the-christian-and-missionary-alliance\/"},"modified":"2014-02-11T16:50:37","modified_gmt":"2014-02-11T16:50:37","slug":"william-menzies-lecture-on-the-christian-and-missionary-alliance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/william-menzies-lecture-on-the-christian-and-missionary-alliance\/","title":{"rendered":"William Menzies&#8217; lecture on the Christian and Missionary Alliance"},"content":{"rendered":"<a href=\"\/category\/winter-2014\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"button\">From <i>Pneuma Review<\/i> Winter 2014<\/a>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/BillMenzies.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Menzies\" width=\"162\" height=\"194\" \/><b>William W. Menzies, \u201cNon-Wesleyan Pentecostalism: A Tradition: The Christian and Missionary Alliance and The Assemblies of God,\u201d <i>Asian Journal of Pentecostal Studies<\/i> 14:2 (July 2011), pages 226-238<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>In his lectures on non-Wesleyan Pentecostalism, presented at the Asia Pacific Theological Seminary in 2000, William W. Menzies ably surveyed the impact of non-Wesleyan traditions upon Pentecostalism, and especially the Assemblies of God. These included Finished Work, Fundamentalism, Keswick, and The Christian and Missionary Alliance. This article focuses on reviewing Menzies\u2019 lecture on \u201cNon-Wesleyan Pentecostalism: A Tradition: The Christian and Missionary Alliance.\u201d In a later article I will review the other three lectures.<\/p>\n<p>In this lecture, Menzies discusses the non-Wesleyan influence of A.B. Simpson and the Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&amp;MA) upon Pentecostalism, declaring accurately that \u201cMore than any other single institution, the Christian and Missionary Alliance denomination profoundly impacted the shaping of the Assemblies of God. \u2026 Much of the theology, as well as the polity, of the Assemblies of God, was borrowed directly\u201d from the C&amp;MA (p 226, 227). Although many confuse the C&amp;MA with the Wesleyan holiness movement, Menzies correctly identifies the C&amp;MA as a \u201chigher life\u201d movement.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> Since I am an ordained minister with the Christian and Missionary Alliance who has prayed in tongues for more than 40 years, I was especially interested in Menzies\u2019 portrayal of Simpson and the C&amp;MA. I found him generally accurate, but with some important misunderstandings. Menzies used primary sources, including Simpson\u2019s <i>Fourfold Gospel<\/i> and <i>Wholly Sanctified<\/i>, standard texts for C&amp;MA ministers. He also referenced research and interviews with C&amp;MA historian John Sawin.<\/p>\n<p>Menzies describes the spiritual journey of A. B. Simpson, including his experiences of healing a a sanctifying baptism in the Spirit, as well as his later relationships with Pentecostalism. He mistakenly conflates Simpson\u2019s experience of his sanctifying baptism in the Spirit with his experience of divine healing in 1881. In actuality, Simpson\u2019s sanctifying Spirit baptism occurred in 1874. He accurately describes Simpson\u2019s \u201cFourfold Gospel\u201d of Jesus Christ as Savior, Sanctifier, Healer, and Coming King , which he stated is borrowed from A.J. Gordon (p. 231). However, he does not give a source for this claim, and in my 20 years of research, I have never seen anything in C&amp;MA writings or Gordon\u2019s writings to support this claim. Rather, George Muller acknowledges Simpson\u2019s originality in the concept, telling Simpson that \u201chis arrangement of truth was most evidently \u2018of the Lord\u2019 and suggested that he never change its mold.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Menzies notes similarities between the C&amp;MA and Keswick views of sanctification, claiming that Simpson \u201cadvocated a theology of sanctification that fits into the Keswick pattern rather than the classical Wesleyan Holiness theology. \u2026 the alliance view was certainly interchangeable with the Keswick teaching\u201d (p. 233). It is true that Simpson\u2019s view was much closer to Keswick than to Wesleyan; however, it is not accurate to say that Simpson\u2019s view \u201cfits\u201d into the Keswick pattern. A.B. Simpson, for instance, spoke at a Keswick convention (1890), especially opposing the language of suppression held by some in the Keswick camp and he did not use the language of counteraction held by other Keswick leaders.<\/p>\n<p>Simpson\u2019s view, though similar to Keswick, was distinct, calling sanctification \u201cthe law of lift.\u201d Christ in you, the hope of glory, lifts the believer above the old nature. He called the baptism in the Spirit \u201cGod\u2019s elevator to the higher life.\u201d He viewed it as a sanctifying experience, not in the same way as Wesleyans or Keswick proponents, but as an intensification of the sanctification begun at conversion, or as Richard Lovelace expresses it, \u201ca large leap forward in progressive sanctification.\u201d Menzies\u2019 lack of full understanding of Simpson\u2019s view of sanctification may be due to his referencing only the earlier works of Simpson, not Simpson\u2019s later writings which explain his views more fully and maturely. Menzies also does not seem to be aware of nuances in differences between the Higher Life and Keswick movements.<\/p>\n<p>Menzies called the C&amp;MA a \u201cdenomination,\u201d when, in fact, at the time of the forming of the Assemblies of God, it was an interdenominational para-church movement, and it did not become a formal denomination until more than half a century later. He also claims A.B. Simpson \u201ccertainly diverged from his Calvinist roots.\u201d However, although Simpson was not a five-point Calvinist, neither was he an Arminian. Simpson was heavily influenced by Scotch Reformed Covenant theology, and while ecumenical and conciliatory toward Arminians, still maintained Calvinist roots. Menzies further concludes, \u201cThere is nothing unusual about Simpson\u2019s eschatology,\u201d viewing it as consistent with Scofield\u2019s dispensationalism. However, he seems not to be aware that Simpson, along with many evangelicals and Pentecostals of the time (such as J. Hudson Taylor and the Pentecostal Stone Church in Chicago) personally (though not the C&amp;MA) held to a type of partial rapturism, the belief that some are raptured earlier, others later, depending on state of preparedness. Menzies observes that the correspondence between the C&amp;MA and Assemblies of God are so close that the AG Statement of Fundamental Truths almost mirrors that of the C&amp;MA with the exception of evidential tongues (p. 238). While a close correspondence does indeed exist, other significant differences can be seen as well between C&amp;MA and AG theology: 1) the C&amp;MA identifies the filling of the Spirit as a sanctifying experience, both crisis and progressive, 2) the C&amp;MA does not take an Arminian position (or Calvinist, for that matter), 3) the C&amp;MA, while premillennial, has always allowed for various views of the tribulation, whereas the AG is distinctly pre-trib. Menzies discusses the former \u201cseek not, forbid not\u201d tongues position of the C&amp;MA, noting that Alliance historian John Sawin remarked it was not the position of Simpson.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Overall, Menzies presents a mostly accurate portrayal of the non-Wesleyan influence of A.B. Simpson and the Christian and Missionary Alliance upon the Assemblies of God, with a few exceptions due to lack of more recent and more detailed and more accurate research. Most of his sources are older, the lectures being presented about 2000. More recent research, such as my own <i>Genuine Gold: The Cautiously Charismatic Story of the Early Christian and Missionary Alliance, <\/i>would inform, correct, and bring a higher level of accuracy to his portrayal and strengthen his thesis as well.<\/p>\n<p><i>Reviewed by Paul L. King<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Read the full article online at: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apts.edu\/aeimages\/\/File\/11-2_William_Menzies_4.pdf\">http:\/\/www.apts.edu\/aeimages\/\/File\/11-2_William_Menzies_4.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr align=\"left\" size=\"1\" width=\"33%\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Menzies\u2019 lecture on \u201cNon-Wesleyan Pentecostalism: A Tradition: The Keswick\/Higher Life Movement\u201d will be reviewed in a separate article.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> It should be noted that the C&amp;MA officially discarded the \u201cseek not, forbid not\u201d position in 2005, replacing it with a more positive and open statement on spiritual gifts with the motto \u201cExpectation without agenda,\u201d more in line with the early C&amp;MA view of openness with discernment.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>Editor&#8217;s note: <a href=\"http:\/\/ag.org\/top\/News\/index_articledetail.cfm?Process=DisplayArticle&amp;targetBay=c97d4d5c-a325-4921-9a9e-e9fbddd9cdce&amp;ModID=2&amp;RSS_RSSContentID=20102&amp;RSS_OriginatingChannelID=1184&amp;RSS_OriginatingRSSFeedID=3359&amp;RSS_Source=search\">William Menzies<\/a> went home to be with the Lord on August 15, 2011.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>William W. Menzies, \u201cNon-Wesleyan Pentecostalism: A Tradition: The Christian and Missionary Alliance and The Assemblies of God,\u201d Asian Journal of Pentecostal Studies 14:2 (July 2011), pages 226-238. In his lectures on non-Wesleyan Pentecostalism, presented at the Asia Pacific Theological Seminary in 2000, William W. Menzies ably surveyed the impact of non-Wesleyan traditions upon Pentecostalism, and&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2909,"featured_media":21482,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[10,3798],"tags":[5032,5919,3840,3841,5787,5920],"ppma_author":[4690],"class_list":["post-21481","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-church-history-2","category-winter-2014","tag-a-b-simpson","tag-christian-and-missionary-alliance","tag-lecture","tag-menzies","tag-paul-king","tag-william-w-menzies","author-paullking"],"authors":[{"term_id":4690,"user_id":2909,"is_guest":0,"slug":"paullking","display_name":"Paul King","avatar_url":{"url":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/PaulKing-20130802.jpg","url2x":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/PaulKing-20130802.jpg"},"0":null,"1":"","2":"","3":"","4":"","5":"","6":"","7":"","8":""}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21481","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2909"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21481"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21481\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/21482"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21481"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21481"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21481"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/km7.a6a.mytemp.website\/journal\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ppma_author?post=21481"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}